Koch, Margaretha
1792 - 1870 (78 Jahre)-
Name Koch, Margaretha Geburt 6 Jan 1792 Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland [1, 2] Taufe 7 Jan 1792 Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland [2] Geschlecht weiblich Tod 1 Mrz 1870 Alexanderhilf, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland [1, 2] Personen-Kennung I18344 Zimbelmann Zuletzt bearbeitet am 3 Mrz 2023
Vater Koch, Adam Friedrich, geb. 6 Jul 1758, Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland gest. 24 Sep 1834, Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland (Alter 76 Jahre) Mutter Haag, Anna Catharina, geb. 8 Nov 1760, Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland gest. 30 Aug 1809, Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland (Alter 48 Jahre) Eheschließung geschätzt 1792 Familien-Kennung F94098 Familienblatt | Familientafel
Familie Harr, Johannes, geb. 15 Jan 1790, Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland gest. 1831, ,, Region Odessa, Rußland (Alter 40 Jahre) Eheschließung 1817 ,, Region Odessa, Rußland [2] Kinder + 1. Harr, Anna Clara, geb. 12 Jun 1818, Großliebental, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland gest. 1 Nov 1876, Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland (Alter 58 Jahre) + 2. Harr, Charlotta, geb. um 1821, ,,, Rußland gest. 19 Aug 1877, Alexanderhilf, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland (Alter 56 Jahre) + 3. Harr, Katharina, geb. 18 Jul 1823, Großliebental, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland gest. 1918, Fredonia, Logan County, North Dakota, USA (Alter 94 Jahre) 4. Harr, Barbara, geb. geschätzt 1825, ,,, Rußland gest. Datum unbekannt 5. Harr, Johann Georg, geb. 1828 gest. Datum unbekannt + 6. Harr, Daniel, geb. 1831, ,,, Rußland gest. 1878 (Alter 47 Jahre) Zuletzt bearbeitet am 24 Okt 2024 Familien-Kennung F6296 Familienblatt | Familientafel
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THEORY
At this time, it can only be theorized that the Margaretha Koch who married Johannes Harr in Russia is the same as the Margaretha Koch born in Schwaikheim. However, given the facts below, it seems a logical conclusion, at least until other facts become known.
FACTS KNOWN ABOUT MARGARETHA KOCH
Age: In the 1858 Census for Grossliebental (taken on 1 Jan), her age is given as 66 (suggesting a birth in 1791). Her age at death is given as 77 years, 3 months, 4 days (suggesting a birth date about 27 Nov 1792).
Arrival in Russia: From an 1826 document requesting acceptance into the colony of Grossliebental, Margaretha Koch and Johannes Harr, both single, arrived through Ismail quarantine in 1817 and were married later that year [probably in Odessa].
Stumpp: Adam Friedrich Koch and Gottlieb Koch both left for/arrived in Russia in 1817 from Schwaikheim.
From Schwaikheim Family Register: Her brother Johann Gottlieb Koch emigrated with his family to Caucasus on 11 Jun 1817. Her sister Katharina Barbara married Joh. Gutenberger and emigrated in 1817 (destination not given). Margaretha emigrated with permission (ist mit Erlaubniß ausgewandert) (date and destination not given).
Margaretha Koch was born in Schwaikheim on 6 Jan 1793, only 1 month and 10 days different from the birth date suggested by age at death of the Margaretha (Koch) Harr who died in Alexanderhilf.
No passport information was found for Johannes Harr. However, his two older brothers, Jacob Friedrich and Johann David Harr, obtained passports in Freudenstadt on 12 Jun 1817. This was only one day later than Johann Gottlieb Koch in Waiblingen--so it seems quite possible that they would have traveled together on the journey to Russia.
Of further interest is the fact that the oldest daughter of Johannes and Margaretha (Koch) Harr married Johannes Klink/Klenk. It appears that the Klenk family was also from Schwaikheim.
CENSUS
The 1858 Census for Grossliebental lists the "Widow Margaretha Harr" 66, along with sons: Johann 29, his wife Katharina (arrived from Neu Freudental) 28 and sons Johann 5 and Daniel 3; and Daniel 26, and his wife Friederika (arrived from Güldendorf) 21.
Sources:
1. Title: Grossliebental, Liebental District Odessa, 1858 Census - Author: GRHS & AHSGR
2. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885-Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg-#1884111/2 p. 207
3. Title: Schwaikheim Church Books, 1561-1915 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Schwaikheim (OA Waiblingen)
4. Title: Odessa St. Paul Evangelical Lutheran Church Family Book--630-1-355 - Publication: GRHS, 2002
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