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James-Sergent:
Tochter von Johannes R. Sailer und Anna Maria Justine Bette

Walter Guthmiller:
UID: 025D999672F901478A5E25D6CF89B185B2CF

Karen Abel:
UID: 696AA19700A64B01B14CB18EEC012D469933
MAIDEN NAME
On the birth records of her children Friedrika's name is given as: Sailer (1855, 1857, 1864, 1868), Seiter (1858, 1860, 1870, 1876), and Sauter (1862, 1878).
In the marriage record that is assumed to be for Daniel Harr and Friedrika, her name is given as Seiler.
In the death records of her children, Louise and Daniel, her name is listed as Sider.
No Friedrikas are found in any Sailer or Sauter families. An Aurora Friedricka Seiter was born 5 Mar 1837 in Simferopol, Crimea, to Heinrich Seiter and Christina Margaretha Hank/Hantke. This fits perfectly with the age of Friederika in the 1858 Grossliebental census. A Heinrich Seiter was originally found in Güldendorf with a wife and a daughter born in 1825. He disappears from there in 1830. He would seem to be the same Heinrich Seiter who then appears in Crimea.
In the 1858 Grossliebental census, Friederika was referred to as being from Güldendorf. Merv Weiss wrote: "It has been my experience that members of a family and one or two generations thereafter were referred to as colonists of whichever colony where they first owned land (which was of course communally owned). Thus a man was known as a Guldendorf colonist even after he had moved to another colony. Also it is most likely his sons were also called Guldendorf colonists, even if they were not living there."
Regarding the issue of movement between colonies in South Russia, Curt Renz wrote: "Something to remember concerning the 'movement' issue is: these people quite often tended to migrate from place to place so that it is not unusual to find children of one family being born in different villages (sometimes returning several times later to one place or another). Sometimes they moved a short distance and other times, a much longer distance, only to return one spot they'd lived in at an earlier time."
No other Friederika Sailer, Sauter or Seiter was found born in the appropriate time frame. Based upon all of these factors, it is assumed at this time that she was the Aurora Friederika Seiter born in Simferopol. There is currently no actual hard evidence to support this assumption.
Sources:
1. Title: Grossliebental, Liebental District Odessa, 1858 Census - Author: GRHS & AHSGR
2. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: www.odessa3.org
3. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Author: Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)

Aurora heiratete Harr, Daniel am 10 Okt 1854 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. Daniel (Sohn von Harr, Johannes und Koch, Margaretha) wurde geboren in 1831 in ,,, Rußland; gestorben in 1878. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

1. Harr, Marie wurde geboren am 13 Mrz 1855 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; getauft am 17 Mrz 1855 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; und gestorben.
2. Harr, Johann + wurde geboren am 5 Mrz 1857 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; getauft am 10 Mrz 1857 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben am 8 Aug 1857 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland.
3. Harr, Christina wurde geboren am 13 Aug 1858 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; getauft am 17 Aug 1858 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben am 20 Jun 1938 in Glasgow, Valley County, Montana, USA.
4. Harr, Daniel wurde geboren am 26 Jul 1860 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben am 23 Feb 1946 in Cleveland, Stutsman County, North Dakota, USA.
5. Harr, Louise wurde geboren am 16 Aug 1862 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; getauft am 9 Sep 1862 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben am 1 Jun 1944 in Cleveland, Stutsman County, North Dakota, USA.
6. Harr, Karl wurde geboren am 14 Dez 1864 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; getauft am 22 Dez 1864 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben am 4 Jan 1924 in , McHenry County, North Dakota, USA.
7. Harr, Elisabeth wurde geboren um Aug 1866 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben am 17 Feb 1868 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland.
8. Harr, Heinrich Ludwig wurde geboren am 21 Nov 1868 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; getauft am 24 Nov 1868 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; und gestorben.
9. Harr, Christian wurde geboren in 1870; und gestorben.
10. Harr, Friederika wurde geboren am 26 Jan 1876 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; getauft am 26 Sep 1876 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; und gestorben.
11. Harr, Jakob wurde geboren am 5 Feb 1878 in Johannestal, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland; und gestorben.

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Karen Abel:
UID: 520B352FB4524B28A83950A5DB44CA312A3F
NOTE
According to Curt Renz, there was a Christian Heinrich Seiter, b. 22 Jan 1799 in Heimsheim (OA Leonberg), Württemberg, who was an early Güldendorf settler. He left there in 1820 for Nikopal and appears on the 1860 Absentee List for Güldendorf. He had a daughter born in 1825.
Other Seiters there were Karl Heinrich Seiter, b. 13 Jun 1811, and Christoph Heinrich Seiter, b. 6 Jul 1813, both in Heimsheim. They were the sons of Johann Heinrich Seiter, b. 9 Jun 1769, and Johanna Friederika Grögenthaler, b. 23 Aug 1773.
From Güldendorf families, there is a Heinrika Seiter, b. 1798, who married Johannes Roller, b. 1788
Sources:
1. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)
2. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)

Christian heiratete Hantke, Christina Margaretha. Christina (Tochter von Hantke, Jacob Friedrich und Stäbler, Margaretha) wurde geboren am 12 Nov 1802 in Musberg, Kreis Esslingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 8 Mrz 1841 in Simferopol, Simferopol, Region Krim, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: C5B2A562DB0B477BA184F1B8F129AC02BC0F
DEATH: Seiter, Christina Margarethe geb. Hantke, des Heinrich Seiter, burger und Tischlers Ehefrau. At age 38 years. Born in Muhsberg, Württemberg.
Sources:
1. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Author: Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)
2. Title: Musberg Church Books, 1563-1917 - Evangelische Kirche Musberg (OA Stuttgart) (Musberg, Württemberg)

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Karen Abel:
UID: 0DC05BBC25B34CAAB2A8F2E9C69CD98EB082
OCCUPATION IN HEIMSHEIM
Kiefermeister (master cooper).
IMMIGRATION
From Curt Renz:
Left from Plieningen (OA Stuttgart), Württ. in 1817
Russian passport via Stuttgart
Stach's "Die deutschen Kolonien in Sudrussland" p. 166
Stumpp's "The Emigration from Germany to Russia in the years 1763 to 1862" p. 599 [Note that this says "Christian Seytel" 1813.]
From Ostwanderung der Wuerttemberger, Tables p. 132-204 (www.Odessa3.org):
Heinrich Seitter of Heimsheim (OA Leonberg) applied for his passport on 16 May 1817 and it was approved 26 May 1817
Sources:
1. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)

Johann heiratete Grözenthaler, Johanna Friederice am 26 Feb 1797 in , Kreis Heinsberg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Johanna (Tochter von Grözenthaler, Ezechiel Christian und Zahn, Maria Barbara) wurde geboren am 23 Aug 1773 in , Kreis Heinsberg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 6EA45FC969FC4555AC93872EB2916C522E6C
Sources:
1. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)
2. Title: Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 - Evangelische Kirche Wildberg (OA Nagold) - FHL Film #1201966

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Karen Abel:
UID: FC0E85F9870344D5B82F522CED6A95930F97
Sources:
1. Title: Musberg Church Books, 1563-1917 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Musberg (OA Stuttgart) (Musberg, Württemberg)

Jacob heiratete Stäbler, Margaretha. Margaretha wurde geboren geschätzt 1775; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 276D3C4B95C147E99FDD5E232DC512C062F5
Sources:
1. Title: Musberg Church Books, 1563-1917 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Musberg (OA Stuttgart) (Musberg, Württemberg)

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Karen Abel:
UID: 570EF9C78FF14DD6ABBA5611C8D6663FD706
SURNAME
Also spelled Krezenthaler, Krözenthaler.
Searches for this family have not found any other families with this name. It is not known where Ezechiel Christian was from.
OCCUPATION
Chirurgus (surgeon), Gerichtsverwandter (lay member of the court), Heiligenpfleger (church building and grounds superintendent), Gemeindeburgermeister (community mayor), Ober-Zoller.
MARRIAGES
Given his age, it is possible that he was married before the first record found in 1755 - especially since this record does not give his father's name or place of residence.
(1) Ezechiel Christian Krezenthaler, Chirurgus, and Maria Catharina, daughter of Wolfgang Jacob Mornhinweg. [I think this record should say that she was the widow of Wolfgang Jacob Mornhinweg.]
(2)Ezechiel Christian Krözenthaler, surgeon and Oberzoller (Zöller + customs official) in Wildberg, and Maria Barbara, daughter of Johann Friedrich Zahn, Reisiger (rider) and Forstknechts (forest hand?).
DEATH
Herr Ezechiel Christian Krezenthaler, Chirurgus and Heiligenpfleger, died of Auszehrung (consumption/tuberculosis) at age 57 years, 2 months, 16 days.
Sources:
1. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)
2. Title: Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 - Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 (Evangelische Kirche Wildberg, BW)
3. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)

Ezechiel heiratete Zahn, Maria Barbara am 9 Mai 1755 in Wildberg, Kreis Calw, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Maria (Tochter von Zahn, Johann Friedrich und Baitinger, Anna Catharina) wurde geboren am 25 Nov 1735 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 13 Jul 1787 in Wildberg, Kreis Calw, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: F4CC7F75FBD7461F83C312B31209A3E89CD4
DEATH: Frau Maria Barbara, wife of the late Ezechiel Christian Krezenthaler, Chirurgi and Gerichtsverwandter (lay member of the court), died of Auszehrung (consumption/tuberculosis) at age 51 years, 8 months, less 12 days.
Sources:
1. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)
2. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)
3. Title: Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 - Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 (Evangelische Kirche Wildberg, BW)
4. Title: Ortssippenbuch Oberjettingen mit Sindlingen, Kreis Böblingen, Württemberg, 1488-1989 - Ernst Christian Haag
5. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)

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Karen Abel:
UID: 365904F225FF4F37B43869ADFB8870D6FA08
OCCUPATION
Reisiger (rider), Forstknecht (forester), Hufschmied (blacksmith, farrier), Gerichtsverwandter, Burgermeister.
MARRIAGE
Joh. Friedrich, a Huffschmied (blacksmith), son of Friecrich Zahn genannt (known as) Jäger (hunter) with the profession of Jäger, and Anna Catharina, daughter of Johann Baitinger.
NOTE
There is a lot of ink bleed-through and water damage in the records, making it difficult to find other children born to them.
DEATH
At age 63 years less 2 months, Malodie am Fuß (malady of the foot).
Sources:
1. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)

Johann heiratete Baitinger, Anna Catharina am 15 Aug 1719 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna wurde geboren am 12 Dez 1701 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 5 Feb 1769 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 794A0F75AE4243C3B76AE8993C7DD49F0BD9
DEATH: Anna Catharina, widow of Joh. Fried. Zahn, at age 67 years, 1 month, 24 days.
Sources:
1. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)

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Karen Abel:
UID: D20917A2F4224769B540A6BDD50BEB81FE49
MARRIAGE
Friedrich, son of the deceased Jacob Zahn from Grömbach, and Catharina Barbara, daughter of the deceased Georg Meyer.
HISTORY
From Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach.
Died in Sulzer Tal. Burger and Bauer in Oberjettingen, Forstknecht and Jäger in 1713-1724.
DEATH
Was shot while in the Sulzer Tal. On the 4th of January about 8 am, the honorable, valiant and well-regarded Friedrich Zahn, well-deserved forester from here.. as he wanted to travel nearer to Sulz in his employment, in the same valley, without question from godless poachers.. there shot him and he fell on the spot. He was brought here from there..and was buried on January 6th at midday.
Sources:
1. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)
2. Title: Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, 1659-1920 - Heide Clausecker and Horst Bruns - Möckmühl, 2004

Johann heiratete Meyer, Catharina Barbara am 25 Okt 1698 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Catharina (Tochter von Meyer, Georg) wurde geboren am 9 Mai 1677 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 17 Dez 1755 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 27C3C08907604DB1876E9ADD54EADE4C6C3E
Sources:
1. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)
2. Title: Ortssippenbuch Oberjettingen mit Sindlingen, Kreis Böblingen, Württemberg, 1488-1989 - Ernst Christian Haag

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Karen Abel:
UID: 799EA77860D647DA86108B87444D6EC2F648
UID: AE6119CBA89B4B6281F296D31212030CF2FE
Death:Bef Oct 1698 in Grömbach, Württemberg, Germany
DEATH: At age 54 years.
COMMUNION RECORDS
Jacob Zahn and his wife Barbara appear regularly in communion records for Grömbach between 1659-1677. After that, Barbara appears as his widow from 1676-1678 (end of records).
Sources:
1. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)
2. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)
3. Title: Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, 1659-1920 - Heide Clausecker and Horst Bruns - Möckmühl, Germany, 2004

Jakob heiratete Zahn, Anna Barbara - wife of. Anna wurde geboren geschätzt 1630; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: AAE81E00CE71457F9CEB2DBC43EFCCB5D6B5
UID: A2F0B3778BCB4429A874666A9B7A30C97940
UID: E518C3F407C94FC2BA150C67391343D53BCB
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)
2. Title: Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, 1659-1920 - Heide Clausecker and Horst Bruns - Möckmühl, 2004

Hans heiratete Zahn, Martha - wife of. Martha wurde geboren geschätzt 1600 in ,,, Deutschland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]