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Theurer, Elisabetha Magdalena

weiblich 1813 - 1863  (50 Jahre)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Theurer, Elisabetha Magdalena wurde geboren am 30 Jul 1813 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; getauft am 1 Aug 1813 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland (Tochter von Theurer, Johann Bernhard und Harmayer, Regina); gestorben am 12 Nov 1863 in Großliebental, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland; wurde beigesetzt am 15 Nov 1863.

    Notizen:

    Karen Abel:
    UID: 090ABD5BFF824A02B73BC9479AC4FCD22687
    NOTE
    The 1841-1860 Church Family Book for Peterstal indicates that Magdalena (Theurer) Hissong was born 21 Feb 1812 in Peterstal. However, her death record on microfilm indicates that she was born in Erdmannhausen. Her birth record there gives her date of birth as 30 Jul 1813.
    Sources:
    1. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: www.odessa3.org
    2. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach) - #1187177
    3. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Ru) - #1884099/3 p.152
    4. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Ru) - #1882647/3 p.370

    Elisabetha heiratete Hissong, Johann Heinrich am 19 Jan 1837 in Peterstal, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland. Johann wurde geboren am 22 Mrz 1812 in Peterstal, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben am 26 Sep 1841 in Peterstal, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

    Kinder:
    1. Hissong, Catharina Barbara wurde geboren am 16 Okt 1839 in Peterstal, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben in Jan 1897 in ,,, Rußland.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Theurer, Johann Bernhard wurde geboren am 2 Sep 1774 in Neckarweihingen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben nach 1820 in Peterstal, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland.

    Notizen:

    Karen Abel:
    UID: 20CAEEC8C3744A998C20E595B493BCD6B9C5
    MARRIAGE
    (From Erdmannhausen archivist, Dieter Duill)
    "On the occasion of a marriage the couple had before, or not long after, the ceremony to establish a marriage inventory at the village/town hall. The THEURER oo HARTMAYER (-MAIER) original inventory at our archives has about 20 pages (in the beautiful old German script) of everything they possessed. Bernhard THEURER was given 800 fl=florins=Gulden and 30 x=Kreuzer (1 fl=60x) in cash by his father. Regina THEURER owned fields, vineyards, meadows worth 1,092 florins, plus movables (her clothes, bedlinen, household contents) all listed up in detail worth 50 fl 48 x. After the deduction of borrowed money of 390 fl 20 x, the whole sum was 1,539 fl 58 x. The document is signed by the THEURER couple.. To give you an idea of how much money this was, an average farm house would have cost about 500/600 fl."
    EMIGRATION
    From Dieter Duill, Erdmannhausen archivist: "People who wanted to emigrate officially had to appear before the local council to ask for consent. Bernhard, 44, and Regina, 40, did so in April 1819 (minutes of the council). They owned 2,000 fl now. Often enough, councils were glad to let people go, those who only owned next to nothing or up to about 100/300 fl, or so. But as the THEURERs owned quite some money the council asked them to stay, probably also telling them of the dangers of the long journey, during which many people died and never arrived at the 'promised land'. But as Bernhard and Regina insisted on emigrating, the council finally gave its consent. Together with the THEURERs, Regina's 'Kriegsvogt'=curator ad litem (Latin)=court guardian appeared before the council. As married women did not have full equal rights at court or council, they had to have a spokesman."
    The Erdmannhausen Family Register for Johann Bernhard Theurer says: "Er ist mit Frau and allen seinen Kindern in der Nacht Zwischen dem 7ten and 8ten Juli 1819 in das südliche Rußland ausgewandert." (He emigrated with his wife and all his children to southern Russia in the night between the 7th and 8th of July 1819.)
    According to Karl Stumpp's book: "Theurer, Joh. Bernhard, aus Erdmannshausen/Ludwigsburg/Wu, 1819, nach Freudental/Od; Fr: Christiane; S: Joh. Jakob 15, Georg Friedr. 12, Johannes 8, Joh. Gerhard 1". This information would appear to be accurate except for the names of his wife and youngest son. Also, it does not include the daughters who came with him.
    Another reference was found in "Ostwanderung der Wuerttemberger 1816-1822". Table 23 is an 'Index of Emigrants from Ober Amt Marbach 23 Apr 1819-Dec 1822'. This table lists the following:
    Joh. Bernh. Theurer, Farmer from Erdmannhausen
    Wife Regina
    Children: Jakob 15, Gg. Frdr. 12, Sibille Katar. 9, Johs. 8, Elis. Magd. 5, Joh. Gerh. 1
    Fortune: 2000 fl.
    Guarantor: Jak. Pommer [NOTE: Jacob Pommer was a witness at the baptisms of the Theurer children.]
    PETERSTAL
    Bernhardt Theurer is on the list of Peterstal colonists who received wheat seed in the fall of 1820 and spring of 1821. (Fond #252-1-280)
    In a document regarding land distribution in Peterstal, signed on 5 May 1827, one of those signing was "Burgermeister Theurer." This was most likely Bernhard, as his oldest son would have been only 23 years old.
    HISTORY
    (NOTE: Source unknown; received from Lola Weber)
    "Chapter One: Freudental, South Russia 1819 - The icy wind rose howling across the Russian prairie as Johan 'Bernhard' Theurer and his family finally reached their destination of Freudental, a beautiful little village laid out on the north bank of the Baraboi River about 20 miles west of Odessa in southern Russia. It has been a long and grueling trip from Erdmannhausen, Ludwigsburg, Wurttemberg in Germany; but as they rode in their wagon, Bernhard's eyes sparkled with pleasure at the strange magnetic power of the scene before him. They could see that it was rich with grasslands and on the south bank of the river there were several lofty hills which would provide fine building stone for their new home. Upon their arrival into the village, they were warmly greeted by the Abel family, the Vogels' and the Schillings' who were all from the same district of Ludwigsburg. ..
    "For the Theurer family, a farming family, the poor harvest in Germany in the years 1809 through 1816 led Bernhard to look to the promised land in the East to provide a future for his four sons. Bernhard's oldest son, Johan 'Jacob' was 15 years old and soon ready to be on his own. The raising of sheep was a very important enterprise in Freudental from the very beginning of the settlement. Bernhard's sons, Georg Friedrich, age 12 and Johanes, age 8, spent many an hour tending sheep for their father.
    "However, only a few short years after settling in Freudental, there was a shortage of acreage for Bernhard and his sons to grow as the population of the colony increased considerably. By 1828 it had become necessary to establish a daughter colony named Neu-Freudental where 47 families resettled. Most of the families were sons and daughters of the mother colony, however, a few came directly from the Kingdom of Wurttemberg after a brief stay in Freudental."
    Sources:
    1. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach)
    2. Title: Neckarweihingen Church Books, 1590-1911 - Ev. Kirche Neckarweihingen (OA Ludwigsburg) - #1195660
    3. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach) - #1187177

    Johann heiratete Harmayer, Regina am 6 Mai 1802 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Regina (Tochter von Hartmayer, Joseph und Fischer, Rosina Barbara) wurde geboren am 13 Mai 1778 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 27 Feb 1841 in Peterstal, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]


  2. 3.  Harmayer, Regina wurde geboren am 13 Mai 1778 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland (Tochter von Hartmayer, Joseph und Fischer, Rosina Barbara); gestorben am 27 Feb 1841 in Peterstal, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland.

    Notizen:

    Karen Abel:
    UID: 4223A6F6F0914478B42334707F46DF4BA8EE
    Sources:
    1. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach) - #1187177
    2. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Ru) - #1883193/1 p.569

    Kinder:
    1. 1. Theurer, Elisabetha Magdalena wurde geboren am 30 Jul 1813 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; getauft am 1 Aug 1813 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 12 Nov 1863 in Großliebental, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland; wurde beigesetzt am 15 Nov 1863.


Generation: 3

  1. 6.  Hartmayer, Joseph wurde geboren am 22 Feb 1736 in Ofterdingen, Kreis Tübingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 15 Dez 1804 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland.

    Notizen:

    Karen Abel:
    UID: 1616BF4960F34423B911247A22EF09D04055
    According to Müller, Joseph Hartmayer, Schuhmacher, from Ofterdingen, married Fischer in 1759
    Sources:
    1. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach) - #1187177
    2. Title: Erdmannhausen: Topographie, Geschichte und Volksleben - Author: Willi Müller
    3. Title: Ofterdingen Church Books, 1558-1952 - Evangelische Kirche Ofterdingen (OA Rottenburg) - #1457480
    4. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach) - #1187178

    Joseph heiratete Fischer, Rosina Barbara am 20 Feb 1759 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Rosina (Tochter von Fischer, Johannes und Ehemann, Maria Dorothea) wurde geboren am 13 Mai 1737 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 9 Nov 1801 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]


  2. 7.  Fischer, Rosina Barbara wurde geboren am 13 Mai 1737 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland (Tochter von Fischer, Johannes und Ehemann, Maria Dorothea); gestorben am 9 Nov 1801 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland.

    Notizen:

    Karen Abel:
    UID: 4D709E11D6FD4F7189D4AC37F745F32593BC
    Sources:
    1. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach) - #1187177
    2. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach) - #1187178

    Kinder:
    1. 3. Harmayer, Regina wurde geboren am 13 Mai 1778 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 27 Feb 1841 in Peterstal, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland.


Generation: 4

  1. 14.  Fischer, Johannes wurde geboren am 20 Okt 1704; gestorben am 4 Jun 1756 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland.

    Notizen:

    Karen Abel:
    UID: E1FC44C656824879B746E71B0FD6C103281F
    OCCUPATION
    In 1737 Johann was a Corporal in an army regiment. From 1739-1755 records indicate that he was a Weingärtner (wine grower). His daughter's marriage record in 1759 shows him to be a Krämer (shopkeeper) in Erdmannhausen, Germany.
    MARRIAGE
    According to Müller, Johannes Fischer, "Korporal und Krämer," married Ehemann in 1736.
    RESEARCH
    No further information was found on other children for Johannes and Maria Dorothea. There is a death record for a Maria Dorothea, daughter of Johann Fischer, Weingarttner, who died 9 May 1755 with her age given as 1 year, less 7 days. This could be another daughter.
    There is a marriage record for a Johannes Fischer, father Jacob Fischer, for 18 Nov 1673. He was marrying Margaretha, father Jacob (last name unreadable). This might possibly be this Johannes' father or grandfather. No further records for Fischers were found.
    DEATH
    At age 52 years, less 4 months and 15 days.
    Sources:
    1. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach) - #1187177
    2. Title: Erdmannhausen: Topographie, Geschichte und Volksleben - Author: Willi Müller - Page: p. 181

    Johannes heiratete Ehemann, Maria Dorothea in 1736 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Maria (Tochter von Ehemann, Johannes und Grau, Dorothea) wurde geboren am 18 Nov 1711 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 8 Mrz 1776 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]


  2. 15.  Ehemann, Maria Dorothea wurde geboren am 18 Nov 1711 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland (Tochter von Ehemann, Johannes und Grau, Dorothea); gestorben am 8 Mrz 1776 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland.

    Notizen:

    Karen Abel:
    UID: 9F209A657FAB44D5A461790AB911852800E7
    DEATH
    Widow of Alexander Ballerich; at age 64 years, 3 months, 23 days.
    Sources:
    1. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach) - #1187177
    2. Title: Erdmannhausen: Topographie, Geschichte und Volksleben - Author: Willi Müller - Page: p. 181

    Kinder:
    1. 7. Fischer, Rosina Barbara wurde geboren am 13 Mai 1737 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 9 Nov 1801 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland.


Generation: 5

  1. 30.  Ehemann, Johannes wurde geboren am 27 Feb 1678 in Rielingshausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland (Sohn von Ehemann, Michael und Zisgau, Anna Maria); gestorben am 25 Sep 1748 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland.

    Notizen:

    Karen Abel:
    UID: 7974AEC640064693AF5A468AFBE09A82509D
    Born: 27 Feb 1677/78
    Death: Johannes' age at death was given as 70 years, 7 months, 6 days. No record was found for his birth
    Sources:
    1. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach)
    2. Title: Dieter Duill - Publication: Researcher in Erdmannhausen
    3. Title: Rielingshausen Church Books, 1558-1965 - Evangelische Kirche Rielingshausen (OA Marbach) - #1187113
    4. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach) - #1187177

    Johannes heiratete Grau, Dorothea am 1 Feb 1701 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Dorothea (Tochter von Grau, Michael und Grau, Dorothea - wife of) wurde geboren am 22 Mrz 1670 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 1 Jun 1747 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]


  2. 31.  Grau, Dorothea wurde geboren am 22 Mrz 1670 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland (Tochter von Grau, Michael und Grau, Dorothea - wife of); gestorben am 1 Jun 1747 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland.

    Notizen:

    Karen Abel:
    UID: DCC6242FE35F4E82895DEE63D1A341CCBFDD
    Sources:
    1. Title: Erdmannhausen Church Books, 1662-1932 - Evangelische Kirche Erdmannhausen (OA Marbach) - #1187177

    Notizen:

    Karen Abel:
    Married: 1 Feb 1700/01

    Kinder:
    1. 15. Ehemann, Maria Dorothea wurde geboren am 18 Nov 1711 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 8 Mrz 1776 in Erdmannhausen, Kreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland.